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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby Multivira on Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:36 am

well if it would drop back to lvl 1 all the time at failure and you'd only use one gem every try, it would cost on average 362 gems to get it to +10. With an extremely high variation though.
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby BrokenBrain83 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:15 am

there is another thing i detected:
i reinforced a dreamlike item to reinf. lvl 4 and it had 41 dex after that
than i tried to reinforce one more and it failed and dropped to lvl 2
i reinforced the item back to lvl 4 but it hadnt the 41 dex, but only 39 dex this time

dunno yet if it was a bug or not, but if not, then u actually lose a lot of stats on the way trying to reinforce an item to a high lvl if u fail a lot :cry:
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby Multivira on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:31 am

eventually the stats converge to the normal number again. Sometimes youll end up with a few higher than normal. But if you have enough successes after eachother itll converge to the right number so dont worry ^^
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby BrokenBrain83 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:48 am

oh thx for the info! :)
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby MajuraUS on Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:08 pm

Last time I used 10 gems to reinforce a Laurel, it was lvl 5 before, now its lvl 3 :lol: Reinforcing more than lvl 3 or so atm is such a waste pfff..
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby Multivira on Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:30 pm

I always reinforce my stuff to around 6-7, never really have much problems oo
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby babyangel7 on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:08 pm

hehe go try 7 to 9/10... u can see even with 4 gems and they claim rate 50+ percent/60+ percent or 40+ percent.... i see it as like 5 to 10percent success =x. Like duo said... the failing rate is v high for some reason.. and thats why i also stop getting gems to do equipment much now... fail too many... the last i try on a equipment. had 2xx gems bought frm market and top up. 2 sod wands level 9 reinforcement. both put 4 gems in both fail... and guess what.. with that 2xx gems can;t even get the wand back to 8/9 =x.. fail n fail n fail.. then give up.. :X
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby Multivira on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:57 pm

the chance of getting at least one of those two wands to +10 is still only 1 - (0.505 * 0.505) = 74.5%

that is by no means a guarantee it will work.

I don't try to go higher than 7, because the extra cost isn't worth the extra benefit in my opinion, costs increase dramatically as reinforce lvls go up.

You should try running some simulations, it's pretty funny to see it sometimes takes up to 3500 gems to get one +10 (and sometimes only 10 ofc). I don't think there's really anything wrong with the chances listed.
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby MajuraUS on Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:44 am

babyger7 wrote:fail n fail n fail.. then give up.. :X

I hear ya there .. it really sux :lol: Well any stuff ingame which includes irl luck, for me just sux, so I'd wonder if this would work.
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Re: Reinforcement rate

Postby DarkKaiser on Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:15 am

For some reason i find reinforcing with SP gems much easier than the gems you buy. Idk but that's just me.
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